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The church that lies in ruins.

Posted by appolus on January 9, 2022

The present position of Christ in the gospel churches may be likened to that of king in a limited constitutional monarchy (think of Great Britain) The king, sometimes depersonalized by the term “the Crown,” is in such a country no more than a traditional rallying point, a pleasant symbol of unity and loyalty much like a flag or a national anthem. He is lauded, feted and supported, but his real authority is small. Nominally he is head over all, but in every crisis someone else makes the decisions. On formal occasions he appears in his royal attire to deliver the tame, colorless speech put into his mouth by the real rulers of the country. The whole thing may be no more than good-natured make believe, but is rooted in antiquity, it is a lot of fun and no one wants to give it up (Tozer)

This is a quote from the last piece Tozer ever wrote. It is a confession to being part of a system that had relegated Christ to being no more than a figurehead and that same system had robbed Jesus of His authority within their gatherings. In Great Britain there is a Queen. She and her family survive within what is known as a constitutional monarchy. She has no real power. The power all resides within Parliament and the Prime Minister. These of course are elected positions, the people choose. The Queen’s main role is cutting ribbons, launching ships and drawing tourists. She also is a symbol of stability, but in the end, she could be rejected from even this limited role if the people so chose.

This is Tozer’s argument. The average church in America has relegated Jesus to a limited role. Rather than a Prime Minister, we have a senior pastor or minister. Jesus is acknowledged as Lord, of course, but it practice He has been relegated and man has taken the position. The Holy Spirit, for the most part, has no role within the average American church. The Word of God is readily dismissed in favor of tradition and customs. The Protestant world readily criticizes the Catholic mass (as well they should) as nothing more than the same thing repeated every week. (laying aside the obvious erroneous centerpiece of the Eucharist) And yet, for the most part, you also know exactly what to expect every week at your local church.

Tozer blames the following two reasons for this disaster…..1. The power of custom, precedent and tradition within older religious groups. These, like gravitation, affect every particle of religious practice withing the group, exerting a steady and constant pressure in one direction. Of course direction is toward conformity to the status quo. Not Christ but custom is Lord. And the same thing has passed over into the other groups such as the full gospel tabernacles, the holiness churches, the pentecostal and fundamental churches and the non-denominational churches found everywhere throughout the North American continent.

The second cause is the revival of intellectualism among the evangelicals. This, if I sense the situation correctly, is not so much a thirst for learning, rather a desire for a reputation of being learned. Our Evangelical faith ( which I believe to be the true faith of Christ and His Apostles) is being attacked these days from many different directions. IN the Western world the enemy has forsworn violence. He no longer comes against us with sword and fire, he now comes smiling, bearing gifts. He raises his eyes to heaven and swears that he too believes in the faith of our fathers , but his real purpose is to destroy that faith, or at least modify it to such an extent that it is no longer a supernatural thing it once was. (Tozer-The Waning Authority of Christ in the churches-pages 14-16)

Tozer lays this out almost 70 years ago, on his death bed so to speak. The old prophet saw in one last sweep of history, what had become of the professing churches. Can I say brothers and sisters, it has degraded so much more so in the last 70 years. If the authority of Jesus was waning 70 years ago in the churches, it is all but gone now. So the question becomes “what must we do.” Tozer asks that very question in the last paragraph and I will leave you with his suggestions……….

What, then, are we to do? Each one of us must decide and there are at least three possible choices. One is to rise up in shocked indignation and accuse me of irresponsible reporting. Another is to nod in general agreement with what is written here but take comfort in the fact that there are exceptions and we are among the exceptions. The other is to go down in meek humility and confess that we have grieved the Holy Spirit and dishonored our Lord in failing to give Him the place His Father has given Him as Head and Lord of the Church. Either the first or the second will but confirm the wrong. The third, if carried out to its conclusion, will remove the curse. The decision lies with us.

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Divorce and division

Posted by appolus on July 16, 2019

At some point after you were born, did you have to fill out membership forms to join your family? Were you not a member of your family the moment you were conceived? Was there not great joy in your family the day that you were born? The day that you were born again was there not great joy in heaven?

Are you a member of that heavenly family due to signed paperwork or rather are you a member of that heavenly family due to you being born again? In your family as you grew up did you all believe the same thing? Did you form yourselves into groups according to your opinions? Did you turn on one another based on disagreements? How did that work out?

Did you parents divorce due to irreconcilable differences? How did that effect the family? Did it help? Do you know many of your friends whose parents are divorced due to irreconcilable differences? When did divorce become a legitimate way to resolve our problems? Where was God in the midst of all that? Does God like divorce? Is divorce His solution to problems?

Of course, in all of this I am talking about The Church using the tragic analogy of our modern culture of divorce. If we are truly born again we are one Body in Christ, not some ecumenical or utopian dream, but one as He and the Father are one. We are one in Him. This was His plan.

We were not to be unequally yoked but rather equally bound together in Christ our Lord so that the world may know that He was sent by His Father. And the glory which was given to Christ, He has given to us. Father forgive us for not walking according to your Word. Forgive us for being more sold out to the systems of men rather than to the Word of God.

You instructed us not to be unequally yoked yet in order to maintain a system devised by man we ignore that, somehow believing that by defying the Word of God we are fulfilling the will of God. What blindness has overtaken us Lord and we wonder why we have fallen into a ditch. Open the eyes of our hearts Lord, we want to see you, high and lifted up, where the Glory is, the very glory that you have given unto us.

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Temptations for the ” organic church.” – Jamal Jivanjee

Posted by appolus on December 20, 2013

The post below by Jamal Jivangee makes some excellent points worth true consideration………….bro Frank

In today’s post, I’d like to share with you some very real temptations that can occur to folks who are attempting to meet organically outside of the traditional religious system. This is a temptation that I am experiencing right now in my current season of life, and I’d like to share my temptation with you today in the hope that my experience can be helpful to you and your relationships. Before I do that, however, I need to give you some background information about me.

Several years ago, I left the institutional religious system. This was no small feat for me as it was a system I was heavily invested in. I had been religiously trained in college, and I had been employed as a clergy member. When I decided to leave this system, many people felt I had withdrawn or abandoned them personally. On a semi-regular basis, it would be common for me to hear something like this when I would encounter a former ‘church member’ in a store when I was out and about:

“Oh hey Jamal, how are you? I haven’t seen you in a while. We’ve missed you lately. It would be great to see you soon.”

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